Best For
- You grind mainly for espresso and value speed and a stepless dial.
- You are prepared to season it and adjust it before judging the cup.
- You want a grinder you can upgrade with aftermarket burrs.
DF64 Gen 2 Grinder Review: Fast, Tunable Espresso Grinding, and Why Some Owners Never Like the Cup
Quick take
The DF64 Gen 2 is a single-dose espresso grinder that owners praise for speed: an 18 g dose in about 5-8 seconds, a stepless dial that makes dialling in easier, and a workflow good enough for one owner's 'endgame' setup. The catch is that the cup divides owners. As many describe shots that stay acidic, bitter or channel-prone however they dial, and pour-over divides them too: one found too many fines on stock burrs and another sold it for lacking clarity, while a third prefers its pour-overs to a hand grinder's. It suits an espresso-first buyer willing to tune it, not someone who wants a guaranteed result out of the box.
Single-dose prosumer flat-burr grinder with a large aftermarket burr ecosystem; the registry merges the DF64 and DF64V variants into one machine.
This page covers the DF64 Gen 2, the generation currently sold.
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Strengths and Common Complaints
The praise centres on speed and workflow, with good espresso in several owners' setups.
The complaints are about the cup and its fixes: acidity, bitterness or channeling some owners never solve, alignment that can backfire, and mixed pour-over results. • Total evidence snippets: 24 • Updated Oct 12, 2026
Strengths
- Fast, easy to use and well built: Speed is the clearest advantage: an 18 g dose takes about 5-6 seconds against 10-12 on a DF54 in one owner's estimate, and about 7-8 seconds against 20-plus on a Baratza Encore ESP in another's, whose stepless dial also makes shots easier to dial in. A six-month owner chose it over a Eureka Mignon single dose after a demo for its speed, low noise and close-to-zero retention, and calls its build fantastic, and an owner who came from years with a first-generation Fellow Opus loves the build, ease of use and grind quality.
- Good espresso in several setups: Paired with a Linea Micra, the shots and workflow are great enough for one owner to call it endgame; another calls it a fantastic dedicated espresso grinder; a Decent DE1 owner has no major complaints about the results; one with a slow feeder finds every cup very repeatable; and an owner grinding oily beans daily is happy with its fineness and how easily the setting changes.
Common Complaints
- Shots that stay acidic, bitter or channel-prone: Other owners never get the cup right. After two years, one kept getting a blast of acidity; another gets inconsistent, mostly bitter shots whatever the ratio or time; a third found medium and light roasts all dialling into the same toasted-nutty, acidic taste, while darker roasts were still fine; and a switcher from a 1Zpresso X-Ultra with a Bambino Plus still cannot eliminate channeling after months. None of these reports identifies a confirmed cause.
- Fixes that can backfire: alignment and new burrs: Owners who tried to fix the cup sometimes made it worse: aligning the burrs worsened one owner's bitter shots, and SSP HU burrs bought to cure acidity made it worse for another. An SSP swap left a third owner's burrs out of alignment until about five rounds of shimming got them close.
- Pour-over: fines and clarity divide owners: For pour-over, an owner who rates it highly for espresso found it produces far too many fines, giving muddy and inconsistent brews, and now keeps it for espresso only; in the same thread, a 90-95% pour-over brewer disliked the stock titanium burrs and bought SSP Sweet Silver Knight V2 burrs on a retailer's advice. Another owner could not reach the clarity they wanted for light-roast pour-over and has sold theirs. Against that, an owner on stock burrs prefers their DF64 pour-overs to a Timemore C5 ESP Pro hand grinder for clarity and flavour separation.
- Noise and oily-bean retention, for some owners: A Decent DE1 owner finds it pretty noisy, enough to consider a Mahlkönig E64 WS, though a six-month owner praises its low noise. With oily beans ground daily, one machine has locked up from retention, against another owner's close-to-zero retention.
Who Should Buy DF64 — and Who Should Avoid It
Fit depends on whether you grind mostly for espresso and how much tuning you will do.
Not For
- Pour-over is most of your brewing and you want to keep the stock burrs.
- You want reliable flavour with no troubleshooting.
- A noisy grinder would bother your household.
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Evidence From Public Buyer Discussions
These examples show the repeated buying signals behind DF64. Use them to check strengths, complaints, and buyer fit before treating isolated comments as full reviews. • Updated Oct 12, 2026
Pro Positive Discussion Reports
The positive reports come mostly from espresso users, several of them comparing it with the grinder they came from.
Like much faster grinding and easier stepless dial-in than an Encore ESP Generation not stated 2026-10-02
One huge difference between esp and df64 is the speed and workflow. About 7-8 seconds to grind 18g vs 20+ seconds on esp. Stepless dial makes it easier to dial in shots.
Like quick Generation not stated 2026-10-02
I bought a DF64 6 months ago and absolutely love it, I upgraded from a compak k3 touch. I looked into the zero 55s but could not get eyes onto one locally. The place I bought the DF64 from did a demo for me (I was also looking at the Eureka Mignon single dose) and I actually preferred the DF64 for the speed and low noise and pretty much close to zero coffee retention. Sorry I can't give much of a comparison but I can tell you that the DF64 is solid and has fantastic build quality. Question, why do you want to
Like build Generation not stated 2026-09-18
I just got df64 after years of hate grinding with a fellow opus v1. It’s fricken amazing. From the quality of built, ease of use, to quality of grind, I love it!
Like fantastic as a dedicated espresso grinder 2026-09-13
Upgrading from DF64 Gen 2 for Pour Over - Looking for the "Diminishing Returns" Sweet Spot Hey everyone, I currently own a **DF64 Gen 2**, which has been a fantastic grinder for my espresso setup. However, I've been trying to use it for pour overs lately, and the results just aren't cutting it. It produces way too many fines, leading to muddy, highly inconsistent brews from day to day. Because of this, I've decided to keep the DF64 strictly as my dedicated espresso grinder and buy a separate grinder dedicated so
Like clean flavour separation in pour-over Generation not stated 2026-09-04
[r/pourover] DF64 stock vs SSP Cast V2/V3 vs ZP6 for pour-over - what would you do? I'm trying to figure out what my next grinder step should be, mainly for V60. I currently have a DF64 with the stock burrs and a Timemore C5 ESP Pro. Interestingly, I actually prefer my pour-overs from the DF64. Compared with the C5 ESP, I get noticeably better clarity and flavor separa
Like great shots and workflow as an endgame setup 2026-08-29
Endgame achieved. I am officially leaving r/espresso before you people cost me more money. Linea Micra. DF64 Gen 2. Coffee corner complete. I started out wanting "a decent espresso machine." Several poor financial decisions later, here we are. The shots are great. The workflow is great. I need absolutely nothing else. Which, as I understand it, means I probably have about three weeks before someone convinces me I need a different set of burrs. Linea Micra DF64 Gen 2 Endgame achieved. I am officially leaving
Like very consistent grind with a slow feeder Generation not stated 2026-08-25
[r/espresso] Df64 and slow feed for the same reasons as you.....just super super consistent coffee each time. Love it.
Like grinds an 18 g dose in 5-6 seconds 2026-08-24
[r/lemmy:coffee@lemmy.world] I have the DF64 gen 2. It's geat. Prolly not worth the extra. I was about to buy DF54 but the DF64 was on sale for 350 or so, so I got it instead. My assessment at the time was that the DF54 was about twice slower. So a typical 18gr would go in 5-6s on the 64, while 10-12s on the 54. Ask away abt the 64.
Like grinds an 18 g dose in five to six seconds 2026-08-24
I have the DF64 gen 2. It's geat. … So a typical 18gr would go in 5-6s on the 64
Con Critical Discussion Reports
Most critical reports describe espresso that would not come right, and what the owner tried; few report a confirmed cause.
Complaint Couldn't reach the clarity a light-roast pour-over drinker wanted Generation not stated 2026-09-28
I'm thinking about buying Mazzer Philos as a replacement for DF64, which I've already sold. At the moment, I'm mainly making pour-over. … Unfortunately, I wasn't able to achieve the level of clarity I was looking for with the DF64.
Complaint Deionizer on the v2 cuts static but grounds still scatter after a few days Different model 2026-09-18
You finally got it eh? That 20-30s grind time is a bit shocking. I know the first version was about 2x the DF64 so 10-20s. I think the lower noise might be the reason. Noise can be reduced by grinding slower. Swapping the burr set might increase the speed at the expense of noise. Does it change RPM at all as the beans hit the burrs? It's nice to hear static is even less of a problem. My DF64 v2 has the deionizer and is much less messier than the OG DF64 but it still makes a bit of a mess over a few days.
Complaint Needed about 500 g of seasoning before shots settled 2026-09-16
Grinder - DF64 gen 2. … So I thought maybe be its because its a new grinder and therefore needs seasoning. I ran 500 grams of some very old beans I had from before. So I dont know how and why but all shots after that have been consistent and the taste is also much better.
Complaint Burr alignment needs repeated shimming after an SSP swap Generation not stated 2026-09-16
Is this good or should I keep going? [DF64 II] My burrs have been out of alignment ever since I upgraded to these SSP. I finally got fed up enough to go through this process and managed to get this even after about 5 tries. This is significantly better than it was, but there's a bit of the inside edges not quite touching. Should I take more time and work out that last bit or do you all think it's good to go? DF64 II SSP Is this good or should I keep going? [DF64 II] My burrs have been out of alignment ever sin
Complaint Stock titanium burrs disappoint for pour-over until swapped for SSP 2026-09-13
I recently purchased a DF64 Gen 2 with the stock titanium burrs. I'd say 90 - 95% of what I do is pour overs. The rest I use a cheap Dēlonghi Stilosa. I made a few upgrades to it to make things a bit better. There's a few vids on that. I believe Lance Hendrick did one. But I recently purchased the SSP Lab Sweet Silver Knight V2 burrs. Because I didn't like how it ground for pour overs. They were suggested after speaking with one of the nice people over at MiiCoffee. I haven't installed them yet because of a trip
Complaint Throws too many fines for pour-over, giving muddy brews 2026-09-13
Upgrading from DF64 Gen 2 for Pour Over - Looking for the "Diminishing Returns" Sweet Spot Hey everyone, I currently own a **DF64 Gen 2**, which has been a fantastic grinder for my espresso setup. However, I've been trying to use it for pour overs lately, and the results just aren't cutting it. It produces way too many fines, leading to muddy, highly inconsistent brews from day to day. Because of this, I've decided to keep the DF64 strictly as my dedicated espresso grinder and buy a separate grinder dedicated so
Complaint Grind dial runs out of fine range after an SSP burr swap Generation not stated 2026-09-08
Df64/SSP LS v3 Grind Size [£190] Hi all, I replaced my stock burrs on my DF64 a few weeks back with SSP LS v3, which I am very happy with. I tried to align them as best as I could and shots have never tasted better. My problem is that I am constantly finding myself going finer and finer since the first day, even with different beans and now I am down to 4 on the DF64 and shots are still not that slow and often gushy. Is this normal? I will run out of numbers soon. Am I doing something wrong? Thanks! DF64
Complaint Noisy enough to prompt an upgrade 2026-09-08
DE1 Pro + DF64 Gen 2 - is the E64 WS actually an upgrade in the cup? [no budget] I currently have a Decent DE1 Pro paired with a DF64 Gen 2 (stock burrs). The DF64 makes good espresso and I don't really have any major complaints about the results, but there are two things pushing me towards the Mahlkönig E64 WS: I find the DF64 pretty noisy. I normally stick with the same bag of beans rather than changing beans every day, so single dosing isn't particularly important to me. Grind-by-weight and just keeping be
Complaint Jammed from retention with oily beans 2026-09-01
DF64 Gen 2 Alternative [$500] I have had a DF64 Gen 2 for a little over a year now. Every day, my wife and I and grind beans with it. She grinds pour over beans and I grind espresso beans. Our beans are on the oily side. I am happy with the grind settings and the fineness of the grind. Also happy with how easy it is to switch how fine the grind is. But I have complaints about the grinder, and I'm wondering if there are better options for my use case. The machine has locked up because of retention before. I now c
Complaint Flattens the differences between beans 2026-08-25
Alignment + Slow-feeder = Budget Elite? Was enjoying my DF64 g2.5 until I began to realize my different medium and light roasts beans were all dialing into the same toasted-nutty, yet pronounced acidity taste. I was not getting the distinct bean characteristics like I was when I'd go to a bunch of different coffee shops and try their respective roasts. If I pushed the extraction in either direction, I would get harsh bitter or sour notes to a more unpleasant degree. Medium-dark and dark roasted beans were still en
Complaint Constant channeling and under-extracted shots Generation not stated 2026-08-25
At my wit's end with new DF64 [DF64 + Bambino] I switched from a 1zpresso X-Ultra manual grinder to a DF64. For months I have been trying to use this thing with my Bambino Plus, but no matter the roast I always: * Can never get rid of channeling 100%. * Rarely get a well-extracted shot. I have sunk so much time into trying to make this DF64 work, so this weekend I decided to film my process between the 2 grinders and post here for any suggestions. The beans used are a week-old "sweet tooth" espresso blend from R
Complaint Owner doubts the step up from the DF54 is worth the extra money 2026-08-24
[r/lemmy:coffee@lemmy.world] I have the DF64 gen 2. It's geat. Prolly not worth the extra. I was about to buy DF54 but the DF64 was on sale for 350 or so, so I got it instead. My assessment at the time was that the DF54 was about twice slower. So a typical 18gr would go in 5-6s on the 64, while 10-12s on the 54. Ask away abt the 64.
Complaint Inconsistent, bitter shots that burr alignment made worse 2026-07-25
I’ve had the DF64 Gen 2 for a while now. I liked it but I keep getting inconsistent, mostly bitter shots no matter what I do for weight ratio or shot time. I tried aligning the burrs but looks like I made it worse.
Complaint Bright, acidic espresso profile that doesn't suit traditional tastes 2026-07-19
I have been using a df64 gen 2 for 2 years … I kept getting this blast of acidity. … So I finally decided to get SSP HU burrs because I believed the problem was the burrs were just causing uneven extraction leading to sourness. To my surprise this made it even worse.
Complaint Shots drifted into channeling despite an unchanged routine Generation not stated 2026-06-27
Uneven extraction [Profitec Go, DF64] I have been making espresso for \~2 years now and more recently upgraded to the Profitec go and df64. I had a nice workflow and consistent shots as before every shot I: 1. Warmed up the machine. 2. Ran a few empty shots 3. Dry with a microfibre cloth 4. wdt 5. Self leveling tamper 6. Metallic puck screen (the normcore 1.7mm one) If I set a recipe for 20 in and 40 out in 30 seconds, I'd always get between 40+-2 grams. More recently, I have started have experiencing chan
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Like much faster grinding and easier stepless dial-in than an Encore ESP Generation not stated 2026-10-02
One huge difference between esp and df64 is the speed and workflow. About 7-8 seconds to grind 18g vs 20+ seconds on esp. Stepless dial makes it easier to dial in shots.
Like quick Generation not stated 2026-10-02
I bought a DF64 6 months ago and absolutely love it, I upgraded from a compak k3 touch. I looked into the zero 55s but could not get eyes onto one locally. The place I bought the DF64 from did a demo for me (I was also looking at the Eureka Mignon single dose) and I actually preferred the DF64 for the speed and low noise and pretty much close to zero coffee retention. Sorry I can't give much of a comparison but I can tell you that the DF64 is solid and has fantastic build quality. Question, why do you want to
Complaint Couldn't reach the clarity a light-roast pour-over drinker wanted Generation not stated 2026-09-28
I'm thinking about buying Mazzer Philos as a replacement for DF64, which I've already sold. At the moment, I'm mainly making pour-over. … Unfortunately, I wasn't able to achieve the level of clarity I was looking for with the DF64.
Like build Generation not stated 2026-09-18
I just got df64 after years of hate grinding with a fellow opus v1. It’s fricken amazing. From the quality of built, ease of use, to quality of grind, I love it!
Complaint Deionizer on the v2 cuts static but grounds still scatter after a few days Different model 2026-09-18
You finally got it eh? That 20-30s grind time is a bit shocking. I know the first version was about 2x the DF64 so 10-20s. I think the lower noise might be the reason. Noise can be reduced by grinding slower. Swapping the burr set might increase the speed at the expense of noise. Does it change RPM at all as the beans hit the burrs? It's nice to hear static is even less of a problem. My DF64 v2 has the deionizer and is much less messier than the OG DF64 but it still makes a bit of a mess over a few days.
Complaint Needed about 500 g of seasoning before shots settled 2026-09-16
Grinder - DF64 gen 2. … So I thought maybe be its because its a new grinder and therefore needs seasoning. I ran 500 grams of some very old beans I had from before. So I dont know how and why but all shots after that have been consistent and the taste is also much better.
Complaint Burr alignment needs repeated shimming after an SSP swap Generation not stated 2026-09-16
Is this good or should I keep going? [DF64 II] My burrs have been out of alignment ever since I upgraded to these SSP. I finally got fed up enough to go through this process and managed to get this even after about 5 tries. This is significantly better than it was, but there's a bit of the inside edges not quite touching. Should I take more time and work out that last bit or do you all think it's good to go? DF64 II SSP Is this good or should I keep going? [DF64 II] My burrs have been out of alignment ever sin
Complaint Stock titanium burrs disappoint for pour-over until swapped for SSP 2026-09-13
I recently purchased a DF64 Gen 2 with the stock titanium burrs. I'd say 90 - 95% of what I do is pour overs. The rest I use a cheap Dēlonghi Stilosa. I made a few upgrades to it to make things a bit better. There's a few vids on that. I believe Lance Hendrick did one. But I recently purchased the SSP Lab Sweet Silver Knight V2 burrs. Because I didn't like how it ground for pour overs. They were suggested after speaking with one of the nice people over at MiiCoffee. I haven't installed them yet because of a trip
Complaint Throws too many fines for pour-over, giving muddy brews 2026-09-13
Upgrading from DF64 Gen 2 for Pour Over - Looking for the "Diminishing Returns" Sweet Spot Hey everyone, I currently own a **DF64 Gen 2**, which has been a fantastic grinder for my espresso setup. However, I've been trying to use it for pour overs lately, and the results just aren't cutting it. It produces way too many fines, leading to muddy, highly inconsistent brews from day to day. Because of this, I've decided to keep the DF64 strictly as my dedicated espresso grinder and buy a separate grinder dedicated so
Like fantastic as a dedicated espresso grinder 2026-09-13
Upgrading from DF64 Gen 2 for Pour Over - Looking for the "Diminishing Returns" Sweet Spot Hey everyone, I currently own a **DF64 Gen 2**, which has been a fantastic grinder for my espresso setup. However, I've been trying to use it for pour overs lately, and the results just aren't cutting it. It produces way too many fines, leading to muddy, highly inconsistent brews from day to day. Because of this, I've decided to keep the DF64 strictly as my dedicated espresso grinder and buy a separate grinder dedicated so
Complaint Grind dial runs out of fine range after an SSP burr swap Generation not stated 2026-09-08
Df64/SSP LS v3 Grind Size [£190] Hi all, I replaced my stock burrs on my DF64 a few weeks back with SSP LS v3, which I am very happy with. I tried to align them as best as I could and shots have never tasted better. My problem is that I am constantly finding myself going finer and finer since the first day, even with different beans and now I am down to 4 on the DF64 and shots are still not that slow and often gushy. Is this normal? I will run out of numbers soon. Am I doing something wrong? Thanks! DF64
Complaint Noisy enough to prompt an upgrade 2026-09-08
DE1 Pro + DF64 Gen 2 - is the E64 WS actually an upgrade in the cup? [no budget] I currently have a Decent DE1 Pro paired with a DF64 Gen 2 (stock burrs). The DF64 makes good espresso and I don't really have any major complaints about the results, but there are two things pushing me towards the Mahlkönig E64 WS: I find the DF64 pretty noisy. I normally stick with the same bag of beans rather than changing beans every day, so single dosing isn't particularly important to me. Grind-by-weight and just keeping be
Like clean flavour separation in pour-over Generation not stated 2026-09-04
[r/pourover] DF64 stock vs SSP Cast V2/V3 vs ZP6 for pour-over - what would you do? I'm trying to figure out what my next grinder step should be, mainly for V60. I currently have a DF64 with the stock burrs and a Timemore C5 ESP Pro. Interestingly, I actually prefer my pour-overs from the DF64. Compared with the C5 ESP, I get noticeably better clarity and flavor separa
Complaint Jammed from retention with oily beans 2026-09-01
DF64 Gen 2 Alternative [$500] I have had a DF64 Gen 2 for a little over a year now. Every day, my wife and I and grind beans with it. She grinds pour over beans and I grind espresso beans. Our beans are on the oily side. I am happy with the grind settings and the fineness of the grind. Also happy with how easy it is to switch how fine the grind is. But I have complaints about the grinder, and I'm wondering if there are better options for my use case. The machine has locked up because of retention before. I now c
Like great shots and workflow as an endgame setup 2026-08-29
Endgame achieved. I am officially leaving r/espresso before you people cost me more money. Linea Micra. DF64 Gen 2. Coffee corner complete. I started out wanting "a decent espresso machine." Several poor financial decisions later, here we are. The shots are great. The workflow is great. I need absolutely nothing else. Which, as I understand it, means I probably have about three weeks before someone convinces me I need a different set of burrs. Linea Micra DF64 Gen 2 Endgame achieved. I am officially leaving
Complaint Flattens the differences between beans 2026-08-25
Alignment + Slow-feeder = Budget Elite? Was enjoying my DF64 g2.5 until I began to realize my different medium and light roasts beans were all dialing into the same toasted-nutty, yet pronounced acidity taste. I was not getting the distinct bean characteristics like I was when I'd go to a bunch of different coffee shops and try their respective roasts. If I pushed the extraction in either direction, I would get harsh bitter or sour notes to a more unpleasant degree. Medium-dark and dark roasted beans were still en
Like very consistent grind with a slow feeder Generation not stated 2026-08-25
[r/espresso] Df64 and slow feed for the same reasons as you.....just super super consistent coffee each time. Love it.
Complaint Constant channeling and under-extracted shots Generation not stated 2026-08-25
At my wit's end with new DF64 [DF64 + Bambino] I switched from a 1zpresso X-Ultra manual grinder to a DF64. For months I have been trying to use this thing with my Bambino Plus, but no matter the roast I always: * Can never get rid of channeling 100%. * Rarely get a well-extracted shot. I have sunk so much time into trying to make this DF64 work, so this weekend I decided to film my process between the 2 grinders and post here for any suggestions. The beans used are a week-old "sweet tooth" espresso blend from R
Complaint Owner doubts the step up from the DF54 is worth the extra money 2026-08-24
[r/lemmy:coffee@lemmy.world] I have the DF64 gen 2. It's geat. Prolly not worth the extra. I was about to buy DF54 but the DF64 was on sale for 350 or so, so I got it instead. My assessment at the time was that the DF54 was about twice slower. So a typical 18gr would go in 5-6s on the 64, while 10-12s on the 54. Ask away abt the 64.
Like grinds an 18 g dose in 5-6 seconds 2026-08-24
[r/lemmy:coffee@lemmy.world] I have the DF64 gen 2. It's geat. Prolly not worth the extra. I was about to buy DF54 but the DF64 was on sale for 350 or so, so I got it instead. My assessment at the time was that the DF54 was about twice slower. So a typical 18gr would go in 5-6s on the 64, while 10-12s on the 54. Ask away abt the 64.
Like grinds an 18 g dose in five to six seconds 2026-08-24
I have the DF64 gen 2. It's geat. … So a typical 18gr would go in 5-6s on the 64
Complaint Inconsistent, bitter shots that burr alignment made worse 2026-07-25
I’ve had the DF64 Gen 2 for a while now. I liked it but I keep getting inconsistent, mostly bitter shots no matter what I do for weight ratio or shot time. I tried aligning the burrs but looks like I made it worse.
Complaint Bright, acidic espresso profile that doesn't suit traditional tastes 2026-07-19
I have been using a df64 gen 2 for 2 years … I kept getting this blast of acidity. … So I finally decided to get SSP HU burrs because I believed the problem was the burrs were just causing uneven extraction leading to sourness. To my surprise this made it even worse.
Complaint Shots drifted into channeling despite an unchanged routine Generation not stated 2026-06-27
Uneven extraction [Profitec Go, DF64] I have been making espresso for \~2 years now and more recently upgraded to the Profitec go and df64. I had a nice workflow and consistent shots as before every shot I: 1. Warmed up the machine. 2. Ran a few empty shots 3. Dry with a microfibre cloth 4. wdt 5. Self leveling tamper 6. Metallic puck screen (the normcore 1.7mm one) If I set a recipe for 20 in and 40 out in 30 seconds, I'd always get between 40+-2 grams. More recently, I have started have experiencing chan
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Buying Questions About DF64
Quick answers to the main review, complaints, buyer-fit, and comparison questions shoppers ask before choosing DF64.
Does the DF64 need burr alignment?
Not necessarily, and attempting it carries risk: one owner's attempt made bitter shots worse, and another needed about five rounds of shimming after an SSP swap to get close. Owners reporting great shots do not mention aligning at all, so treat alignment as a last resort rather than a first step.
Does the DF64 need a slow feeder?
It is optional. One owner runs it with a slow feeder and gets very repeatable coffee each time, and another was weighing alignment plus a slow feeder after the beans began tasting alike; that post does not report the result.
What changes after an SSP burr upgrade on the DF64?
Results vary. SSP HU burrs made one owner's acidic espresso even more acidic, and an SSP swap left another's burrs out of alignment until repeated shimming. A pour-over user bought SSP Sweet Silver Knight V2 burrs to cure muddy brews but had not installed them yet, so there is no result to report. Another owner's SSP LS v3 swap made shots taste better than ever, but they keep having to go finer and are down to 4 on the dial with shots still running fast, close to the end of the fine range.
Is the DF64 messy or static-prone?
Less than the original, according to an owner whose DF64 v2 has the built-in deioniser: much less messy than the first DF64, but still leaving a bit of mess over a few days.
Is the DF64 worth it over the DF54?
One owner who chose it because it was on sale for about $350 rates it as great but probably not worth the extra over a DF54, the main difference being speed: about 5-6 seconds per 18 g dose against 10-12 seconds. That is a single owner's view.
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